Tuesday, December 19, 2006

Mark Mulder a Step Closer to Cleveland?


Before I get to Mulder, there is a bunch of other Tribe news to report.
  • Let's get started with an interesting article on Minor League Ball, in which John Sickels ranks Cleveland's prospects. It's an interesting take on where some of their players stack up, with Adam Miller, of course, right at the top. The rest of the list isn't necesarily how I would rank the Tribe's minors, but what the hell do I know. Take a look for yourself, and Sickels does offer us all up a chance to change his mind.


  • It looks like Cleveland may be able to move to Arizona afterall. The Tribe's official site is claiming that Arizona is prepared to come up with enough money to take both LA and the Tribe in both Glendale and Goodyear respectively. As a baseball fan, this is a good thing in a sense that the old bastards in Winter Springs treat the Tribe like a daylong prostate examination. As a Tribe fan, this sucks for be, because it's easier for me to get to Florida. I've been secretly hoping that it would fall through. Such is life.


  • If you scroll down, in the same article, there's more talk on Mark Mulder. As I said early last week, and again on Sunday, Cleveland is becoming a more prominent player in the Mulder game every day. If you really don't remember or know much about Mulder, let me fill in the holes for you. Mulder's rookie year was 2000, and he went 9-10. Then followed with seasons of 21-8, 19-7, 15-9, 17-8 and 16-8. Last year was marred by the cuff injury, which effected his velocity, and allowed him to pitch only for half the season. Overall, Mulder is 103 and 57, with a 4.11 ERA. The issues with Mulder are many, but the risks are good. If his surgery is successful, he could be back by June, strength up by September, and ready for a full season next year. If he doesn't recover, well, Mulder is believed to be looking only for a 2 year deal. As the Diatribe noted, it would give Cleveland 4 lefties if he comes back healthy in Sowers, CC, Mulder and Cliff Lee. As the DOJO noted, it would seemingly give the Tribe some trade power at just the right time. But lets face facts here. Even if Mulder comes back in June, recovery from this surgery generally takes 2 years. I don't think Mulder will open up the potential for a deal period. If it does, the Diatribe makes a good case to get rid of Cliff Lee. Yes, that would be the CORRECT thing to do. Problem though is that I don't think Cleveland will be able to sign Westbrook. He would be the logical deal, or Paul Byrd...or both. Of course, that would leave 4 lefties as starters. I don't see a deal this year though, that is BECAUSE of a potential Mulder signing. I just don't see him being effective until September at the earliest. To me, signing Mulder gives Cleveland a 1-year window NEXT year to either long term Mulder, or find another after Westbrook leaves. Whatever the future holds in this move, at least it gives us something to talk about.


  • If you haven't checked out THE DIATRIBE, they have a clearer view on the Gagne dealings. It looks like it was just the weather, and that the offers were nearly identical. Ah well, maybe Gagne is another Rocker.

You know, when it's all said and done, at least it's been an interesting off season.

5 comments:

  1. I have to be honest with you - if it were up to me I'd run away from Mulder as fast as I could.

    I live in St. Louis, and last year a ton of things happened to this guy and he basically had a melt down.

    He was taking so much heat from the newspapers and radio shows for his poor performance, and when he was placed on the injured list, there were reports that he skipped many rehab sessions. He skipped team meetings, and became a ghost around the club house. Then the Cardinals gave him a "undefinite leave of absecence" for personal reasons. Many people said it was mental in nature...

    To me it seems like the biggest problem is between the ears - not the shoulder.

    I just don't know if he is a risk worth taking. Can he ever be close to the pitcher he was with the A's?

    My guess is no.

    I was glad when the Indians didn't get "stuck" with Gagne...I think this is another noose they need to get out of fast...

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  2. The problem is hombre...that when you go after these guys...

    and don't get them...

    it sends a message...that people don't want to play here...

    I think you overstepped a little bit on the Gagne deal because it was a one year...no risk contract. You sign him...THAT sends a message that people will come here to play...and that Cleveland will even take a bit of a risk.

    It helps for the future.

    Mulder...another case...

    and...IF it pays off...and he performs...Cleveland looks all the better...especially after Millwood as well...

    I heard a lot of the same things that you did...but you never know what it means when a guy loses velocity...and goes from an ace...to a dunce...

    you get healthy...things can fix itself quickly...

    but...when it's all said and done...I want people to WANT to come to Cleveland...

    and for that to happen...we need more people TO COME HERE!

    That being said...performance-wise...you may be dead right...

    but big picture...a one or 2 year deal doesn't hurt much...at a bargain price...IMO...

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  3. I hear what you're saying and I agree with you...

    but, with the financial situation we are in, and us already having our rotation pretty much set, with Sabathia, Westy, Lee, Byrd and Sowers....AND...Carmona as a backup...does a 2-year deal for basically 1 year of full service, to damaged pitcher really make that much sense?

    Westbrook is a free agent after this year, wouldnt you rather use that money towards an extension for him?

    Hafner deserves an extension too...

    Id rather tie up our loose ends then go taking chances on Eric Gagne and Mark Mulder.

    But...in the end we both want the samething, and I'd be glad to say I was wrong if it means more wins.

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  4. If you signed Mulder, you'd basically be doing him the favor of letting him rehab on your watch so that you can reap the benefits of a make-good year in 2008.

    He'd go elsewhere for beaucoups bucks in 2009, but you would get that one make-or-break year out of him as he tries to reclaim his market value.

    With that in mind, the smarter thing to do if you signed Mulder would be to not touch the rotation. Just play 2007 under the assumption that Mulder isn't going to play a significant role, then see what '08 brings.

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  5. If you signed Mulder, you'd basically be doing him the favor of letting him rehab on your watch so that you can reap the benefits of a make-good year in 2008.

    He'd go elsewhere for beaucoups bucks in 2009, but you would get that one make-or-break year out of him as he tries to reclaim his market value.

    With that in mind, the smarter thing to do if you signed Mulder would be to not touch the rotation. Just play 2007 under the assumption that Mulder isn't going to play a significant role, then see what '08 brings.

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